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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:03 am

Yeah, he does look good and I do enjoy seeing him with or without clothes! Yeah I am a spicey old bird! Twisted Evil

But, I do think the excuse he gives for not putting on weight and being made to physically look more like the character is his choice, not so much that of the producers, but obviously they are all on the same page. I hope they start aging him a little...otherwise it is going to be totally unrealistic. People of that time aged fast...they did'nt have long lives and partied hardy when they had his kind of money.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:57 pm

I have to say even though I do favor a more accurate portrayal of Henry, the eye candy on the show has been quite nice. From what I understand, they are planning to age him although how they plan to do it, I don't know.

Regarding Anne of Cleves, what people should remember is that the famous painting of her - the one that Henry saw - was done by Hans Holbein who always made his subjects look better than they really were in real life. I do think she was probably at least presentable but that Henry didn't like her because of how she reacted to him when they first met.

One thing I wonder if they will make reference to is the fact that Princess (later Queen Mary) always believed that Elizabeth's real father was Mark Smeaton and liked to bring up that there was more than a passing resemblance between them.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:11 pm

I don't know why CRAZY Bloody Mary kept bringing that up. If you look at Elizabeth it is obvious she is her father's daughter. Except for her Mother's dark eyes she looks just like him. That is one reason the people of England wanted her to rule. Henry for all his foibles was much loved as was Elizabeth . I have symphaty for Mary but Good Lord was she one crazy religous fantatical woman. She scared me.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:56 am

FWIW, I'm guessing the real Mark Smeaton probably had the same kind of coloring as Henry and Elizabeth. And FWIW, maybe it wasn't so much that Mary actually believed he was Elizabeth's father, but that she wanted everyone to believe that Anne was the kind of skank who would have an affair with a lowly peasant like him.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:34 pm

Here is the Jonathan Reese Meyers minimee head that some doll collectors had made. They go for an 80% likeness. I think he came out nice.

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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:44 am

It looks like him from back when he was in "The Velvet Goldmine".
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:42 am

WOW!! What an amazing looking doll! I see a little of JRM. I think I'm used to his hair being more off his forehead and his face a little fuller. Still, gorgeous doll! Looks like a photo of a real person!
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:31 am

I know! I thought they captured aspects of the real person, but created something new and interesting. The head is up for sale now for 100.00 which tempted me. They also have a body for 190.00 It would be cool to have a big doll for that price that is so original and unique. I would have to dress him up as King Henry of course....

Hmmm, I will have to go look up The Velvet Goldmine Badger....
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:24 am

Henry VIII reveals his softer side in never-before-seen gushing love letter to Anne Boleyn






He's infamous for beheading two of his wives, but it has emerged that Henry VII had a much softer side.

A passionate love letter to Anne Boleyn - who later lost her head when their marriage soured - is to go on display for the first time at the British Library in London.

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Gushing: The love letter written by Henry VIII to Anne Boleyn reveals his passion for the woman who was to become his second wife and includes a passage where he writes "henceforth my heart will be dedicated to you alone."





Henry VIII, left, appeared to be deeply in love with Anne Boleyn, right

Written in around 1528, it was kept under wraps in the Vatican for 50 years. In it, the King writes: "Henceforth my heart will be dedicated to you alone, and wishing that my body was too."

The letter, written in French five years before Anne became Queen, shows Henry in an entirely different light.

The King gushes: "The demonstrations of your affection are such, and the beautiful words of your letter are so cordially phrased, that they really oblige me to honour, love and serve you for ever, imploring you to agree to continue in this same firm and constant purpose, assuring you that for my part I will outdo you, if this be possible, rather than reciprocate, in loyalty of heart and my desire to please you; and you, without any further ties in your heart, can further this."

The letter is signed "H seeks A.B, No Other Rex".

The couple's happiness wasn't to last, however, and Anne was beheaded eight years later at the Tower of London in 1536. Henry went on to marry four more women during his lifetime.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:49 am

What a cool find!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:50 pm

That is really cool Aerwin.

Gah, when does this season of The Tudors start already? I know I keep asking this. Did Badger say it was March? pacing
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:44 pm

I hear now that it's supposed to start in mid-April. However, my Showtime On-Demand schedule shows the first episode being available there in March there. On-Demand gets the episodes one week in advance. I imagine once it gets down to crunch time, there'll be plenty of notice as to when the new season starts.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:14 pm

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I hear now that it's supposed to start in mid-April. However, my Showtime On-Demand schedule shows the first episode being available there in March there. On-Demand gets the episodes one week in advance. I imagine once it gets down to crunch time, there'll be plenty of notice as to when the new season starts.
Thanks for the info Badger. Guess we will have to wait a while to find out for sure. Darn, I was hoping I would'nt have to sign up for Showtime since I will have it through March for free.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:47 am

According to Wikipedia, it's supposed to begin on April 5.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:38 am

Jonathan Rhys Meyers talks about The Tudors third season



by jill on June 5th, 2008
With The Tudors second season behind him, The Los Angeles Times found Jonathan Rhys Meyers in a reflective mood. The uber intense star, shown here arriving at the Dublin airport in advance of shooting the third season, covered a lot of ground in a recent interview:
• He compared himself to an NBA athlete in terms of his preparation for playing Henry VII — “it’s always game time.”
• He said when shooting’s done on The Tudors, he’d be happy not to see a doublet, knee-high boot or pair of boobs for a while.
• He gave the standard “it’s an honor just to be nominated” answer to the question of how he handles award season.
Even better, he dished about the new season of the show, which starts shooting June 16. Find out what he has to say after the jump.
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JRM’s take on The Tudors in future seasons — without the Henry/Anne romance to anchor the show:
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From here on, the story is all about Henry and his descent into a sort of isolation, paranoia as well as extreme pain as a result of the accident he suffered in the joust last season. Things start off great for him with his marriage to Jane Seymour. She was an amazing wife, a Stepford wife, but she doesn’t last long after their son is born. After that, Henry becomes very closeted, and the next wives were all disasters. Katherine Howard was a nymphomaniac. There’s plenty of good story to tell.</BLOCKQUOTE>Tags: jonathan rhys meyers tudors, rhys meyers interview, season 3 tudors details, season 3 tudors henry, showtime-fan, Showtime-Network, the tudors season 3, tudors third season







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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:20 am

The thing about Jane Seymour is that she knew when it was time to quit arguing. Sadly, that was a trait Anne Boleyn did not have.

You know, last night I saw something on the Australian version of Gawker about a young male model who was part of a photo shoot for "The Tudors". It's a picture of Henry on his throne surrounded by obviously naked young men in a prone position. And now that I read JRM talking about the King being more "closeted" this season, does that mean they're going with a "maybe Henry was gay" theme?

God, this all reminds me of the drama professor at our college. He could find a gay subtext in anything. You could read "The Bobbsey Twins on Blueberry Island" and he could find something gay in that.

Oh, did any of you watch the Lifetime movie, "Prayers for Bobby"? That was the one about the very religious mother (played by Sigourney Weaver) whose gay son committed suicide and how she became a gay rights crusader because of it. Anyway, the actor who played her husband was Henry Czerny who played The Duke of Norfolk (Anne Boleyn's uncle) on the first season of "The Tudors".
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:34 am

I hope they are not going to go with an underlying gay backstory! Shocked I thought they already covered that with Anne's brother and boyfriend.

I did'nt see "Prayers for Bobby" was the acting good? Sounds like it was a great cast.

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He said when shooting’s done on The Tudors, he’d be happy not to see a doublet, knee-high boot or pair of boobs for a while.

Laughing Guess JRM is not a breast man.... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:09 am

Regarding "Prayers for Bobby", yes the acting is very good. Sigourney Weaver is excellent.

There's nothing wrong with a gay backstory if the characters were in fact gay, but The Tudors keeps making characters gay that weren't actually gay in real life. There is speculation about George Boleyn and Mark Smeaton possibly having a relationship but nothing has ever been proven and Boleyn was better known for being a frequenter of brothels.

And, neither Thomas Tallis nor William Compton (the gay couple of Season 1) were gay either.

Maybe that's how they're planning to get around Henry VIII not being old and decrepit as he really was by this time in the plot. Maybe his failure at marriage will be chalked up to his possibly having been closeted all these years.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:01 am

Kyle Buchanan, 1:39 PM on Thu Jan 29 2009, 6,926 views
Showtime has always maintained that its Jonathan Rhys-Meyers starrer The Tudors isn't your father's stuffy historical drama, but the new ad campaign suggests maybe it is, if your father is into gay gladiator porn.
This first look at the Season 3 ad campaign comes courtesy of self-regarding Mario Lopez rival Nick Adams, who body-doubled for three of the nude, prone Chelsea boys that the time-traveling Henry VIII has seemingly conquered. There is certainly a Henry VIII/head joke to be made here, but we will demur (no doubt Showtime—with its double entendre of a tagline "Thy Kingdom Come"—will make it for us). Way to retain that Queer as Folk audience, Showtime!

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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:08 am

Oh dear. That ad is rather tasteless isn't it No Too bad they are not sticking closer to the real history. I don't get the point of making non-gays gay - except for all that male nakkieness! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:53 am

I really think the ad is tacky. I mean even to indicate Henry was remotely gay is ridculous. I have read several books that say that George Boleyn was . i would not be surprised.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:52 am

I think it's tacky too.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:35 pm

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Showtime has always maintained that its Jonathan Rhys-Meyers starrer The Tudors isn't your father's stuffy historical drama, but the new ad campaign suggests maybe it is, if your father is into gay gladiator porn.
I just don't get it...*scratches head* Are'nt the ratings good enough or what? Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:01 pm

I think the ratings are fine. TPTB at the show have just convinced themselves that it's the sex and pretty people that keep us watching.
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PostSubject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles!   Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:21 pm

I guess they must have a significant gay demographic/following they are pandering to with that ad. I mean I know JRM is a hunk and hotter than hell to both women and men, but jeez, that kind of sleazy advertising lessens the artistic credibility of the show to me. I know it isn't historically accurate and all that, but I really think a lot of great talent and creativity has gone into this show.
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