ADAM - QUESTIONABLE DECISIONS?

What the freaking heck are you on Adam? You need to bloody chill the fudge out!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously dude you have no idea how bad things can turn out!

teddyhugz wrote:

What the freaking heck are you on Adam? You need to bloody chill the fudge out!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously dude you have no idea how bad things can turn out!

At this point I honestly don't think he is thinking about consequenses. He is just living by the seat of his pants and doing. Adam is in no think mood cause if he was thinking he would not be doing some of this stuff.

Shannon

I trust DD and Sky when they say it was nowhere near what was Tweeted - which is the case about 100% of the time. This is why I did not comment before I went to bed. I simply refuse to get into discussions about these matter until there is plenty of video proof. I do not see the point in getting upset by Tweets which are ALWAYS WAY exaggerated.

The only thing that would really bother me is if people touched his crotch. That is way over the line. Artist surfing - that's gone on for years. I have been to concerts where artists kiss fans in the audience. This is no bigger as far as behavior to me. I worry much more about him catching a virus from them than think it is any big deal.

Yes, I think most fans are encouraging it - just like the do with most artists. Adam did say he goes by what he is feeling from the audience.

Hey, you can always go see that guy that sits on a stool and sings Moon River But I know which one I would rather see Hmmm, you'd think it would be the republican here that would have big issues with Adam

Honestly, not making light of those bothered by everything - but sense it appears it was nowhere near as Tweeted (big surprise) I just can't get worked up.

But the bitchy side of me is seriously considering making it a rule to not jump on Adam until there is video proof of what REALLY took place. Then you can have at him if you so desire. (I know I so desire to have at him )

The main thing posted here I disagree with is - DD, WHAT DO YOU MEAN LADY G CAN'T SING??!! I love her voice!!!!!

BTW - not only did she body surf in that tiny bikini but the top came down when she did it! I'm thinking some male fans left feeling pretty happy about their show!

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If what is said here is true, I have to agree with everyone else so far. Adam isn't in a gay bar it's the general public. I don't think I would be appalled, I just don't think it's appropriate. I will go find a vid and watch it. Tweeters do tend to 'hype' things up though, so remember that......

ETA...........Not as bad as tweeted. I do think he put himself in possible danger even IF he knew the boys he kissed and I'm presuming they are boys, I couldn't see that clearly. It's too bad some of the fans encourage him and he goes with it.

It's very sad. He is an incredible performer and has such a god given talent and to see him waste this way on cheap and tawdry behaviour is beyond disappointing.

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But the bitchy side of me is seriously considering making it a rule to not jump on Adam until there is video proof of what REALLY took place. Then you can have at him if you so desire. (I know I so desire to have at him )

I thought that's what this thread was for so I didn't clutter up the main threads when stuff like this happens? People don't have to come in here if they don't want to just like I avoid the Pants thread.

Some of you might be rock n roll and okay with this behaviour, but I'm not and I can't. It truly saddens me to see him waste his talents this way. The stuff with Tommy was already OTT and this is putting it over the top. It makes me beyond sad because he doesn't need the gimmicks. If he's bored, he should put in another new song not start make out sessions with the audience. Now that he's crossed that line there is no going back.

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Hey, you can always go see that guy that sits on a stool and sings Moon River But I know which one I would rather see Hmmm, you'd think it would be the republican here that would have big issues with Adam

Nobody is saying Adam has to sit on a stool. It's the making out sessions on stage that are going too far. If I wanted to see that I can rent porn movies or the like.

In one interview I listened to he talked about loosing his voice because of a virus before the NY show. Well if he's concerned about that kind of thing he shouldn't be making out with random strangers not knowing what diseases they might be carrying around. This is not healthy behaviour.

I want to see videos before I believe one word of this. People at concerts like to brag about what they saw and tend to exaggerate. I do wish he'd stop kissing and/or licking anybody, though. I want him known for his talent, not his antics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdOQV4pdX5I

Here's the video. I don't think people were grabbing his crotch, hard to tell. Somebody on AO said the girl and blond guy were people he knew and were seen with earlier. I suspect the blond guy got very lucky after the concert. There is another video of Adam kissing Tommy that night, and it was a bit OTT. Wish he'd cool it.

I guess if I had been into Rock and Roll and the bands that were over the top, this would all seem like nothing to me but I wasn't. I have always gone for really good singers, the kinds that can hold an audience with just their voices and some personality. In the 90's it was Michael Crawford (The Phantom of the Opera) and he was sooooo sexy and he didn't have to really do anything. With Adam I heard a voice like what I had loved in the past and I somehow kidded myself that he would be like he was on idol but I knew better after the AMA's but I wanted to believe and Fantasy Springs was great but since the tour started he has gone further and further, I don't see him going back to anything like Fantasy Springs and I can't even imagine what he will be like in Europe and Asia.
But now, I have to go to work.

Yeah Europe and Asia scare me a lot.....

Elvis used to reach out like that and kiss women. And this concert was at the Heartbreak Hotel! Adam is in many ways the 21st Century Elvis. I feel like I'm reliving those days.

Adam's antics are mild by rock and roll standards. He apparently monitors the boards (probably AO) for fan reaction and adjusts his performances accordingly. He said in a recent interview that he has learned a lot about performance limits and public opinion. I'd like to sit and hear him sing without the antics, but that's not who Adam is. Actually, his stage antics would be ridiculous and laughable except they are backed up with talent the likes of which we rarely see.

Watching that video, I thought, damn. Why didn't he do that at the AI concert when I was on the front row.

UGH! I had the longest post of my life typed up and was previewing it for typos when the baby knocked my coffee cup unto my keyboard and my lap and well - poof! Maybe you all should consider yourselves lucky

Spirit - agree 100% with your post above. So happy you joined this board

Canear - you know how much I love you! :love60: Never leave us!

Of course this thread is for discussion of things Adam does that people find or might find objectionable. My comment was in regards to the getting upset with him for something we have not seen - only read tweets/rumors. We've seen enough times where it is nothing like the tweets - which indeed seems to be the case this time as well from all that I am reading. I think we all would prefer people judge us on what is known to be fact and not just the tweets/rumors. I do think Adam deserves that much.

The stool/Moon River was just hyperbole on my part. I know that is not what you need Adam to be. Just saying there are artists that keep it simple like that if that is what some prefer to "rock and roll". I'm just not one of those people who prefer that. I love a rocking/sexy show for my $$$.

The kiss? Adam and Tommy having fun giving fans what so many of them want. They laughed it up afterward. I don't think it even comes close to porn! They are not a real couple seriously going at it on stage. It's just for the show. No biggie to me at all.

You know, he had no choice but to go on Idol if he wanted a chance at a major label. Being a flamboyant gay 27 year old man he knew it was really his only option. You can thank society for that. He pushed it as far as he was allowed to on Idol. He had guidelines to stay in. He didn't try to fool anybody about who he was. How he performed. He was as much of himself as he was able to be.

Does he want to emulate artists he loves and admires? Probably. Who doesn't want to emulate people they look up to?

Is he, with his upbringing and lifestyle going to view the world/issues the same as a middle aged woman brought up in a strict Catholic, conservative republican household? (me) No. I wouldn't expect him too.

All I know is he seems to be a great guy with a big heart who loves his fans and gives them his all. He busts his butt off to put on a great show. He gave us one heck of an awesome CD. He seems to impress and be loved and respected by all he meets in the business.

I enjoy the heck out of him and I do not need him to be perfect 100% of the time. I don't need to agree with every decision he makes. He is just a heck of a talented fun gorgeous guy who provides me with a lot of entertainment. With all that is wrong with the world right now - lordy that is all I can ask for and I am so grateful for the distraction he provides from all of that.

I do agree that I want Adam known for his awesome talent more than anything else. I think he will be.

I don't have any problem at all with those of you who do not feel the same way. It is what it is. If some of you feel you will need to move on and away from him - I just hope you still visit here and post in other threads of people/subjects that are more to your liking.

Spirit.........FC............ right on! Adam is Adam and I love him for the honest person he appears to be. I wouldn't mind any of his stage antics as long as he sang his heart out for me! I do want him safe and happy and to be himself and not have to pretend to be something he isn't. I'm not so sure he should be encouraged by his fans so much though.

OMG!!! I just watched the whole 7 min. encore and IT FREAKING ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I not only didn't find anything "wrong" with it (other than the chance of getting sick from germs but you can get that from shaking hands too) but I loved it!!!!!!!! Awesome performance!!

People were just touching his head (rubbing his hair) and hands. Never saw a crotch grab at all. Didn't see anything I haven't seen at rock concerts before. In fact it was pretty dang tame compared to others.

It's important to remember that Adam is a trailblazer. He is establishing himself as a unique artist, and that requires some experimentation on his part. Some people will love it, others will fall away. Overall, he must be doing it right because we have seen how crazy for him the entertainment world is. He is gaining great love and respect. I can't wait to see where his career leads him. For the most part, I don't agree or disagree. I just watch in awe.

Now if he ever resorts to sitting on a stool singing "Moon River", I may change my tune. LOL

HA! Exactly Spirit! Totally agree!

And if Adam goes near a song like Moon River THAT is when I will want to smack him

LOVE HIM!! HE IS FIERCE AND FABULOUS!!

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Of course this thread is for discussion of things Adam does that people find or might find objectionable. My comment was in regards to the getting upset with him for something we have not seen - only read tweets/rumors. We've seen enough times where it is nothing like the tweets - which indeed seems to be the case this time as well from all that I am reading. I think we all would prefer people judge us on what is known to be fact and not just the tweets/rumors. I do think Adam deserves that much.

To be fair, there were many tweets that were describing the same thing last night so I think it was safe to assume that it had actually happened.

I think it's becoming more clear to me that this probably is another fandom where I'm an odd person out. Time will tell. I know one thing for darn sure and that's I am never watching AI again. I get too invested in singers based on their AI persona and their stage persona turns out totally different.......I think that's a shame and we shouldn't have to delve into their pre AI performances to know what they're about. My real fear is that this is the tip of the iceberg where Adam is concerned. That is why I'm afraid for what will happen in Asia and Europe.

It doesn't appear that you are alone here. Jaycee for one seems to feel the same.

I don't know how to make you feel any better about the situation. Idol makes these kids follow certain rules and sing covers of certain types of songs. How can one ever feel they truly know what type of artist the contestant really will be?

The opposite happened for me with Clay. I thought he would get much more hip and current once off Idol. I thought he just sang those types of songs because Idol made him. Turns out all he really wanted was to sing covers and old songs. That was a huge bummer for me....

I think watching Idol (and I guess X-Factor) is worth the risk.

FC, ITA with your posts. And the tweets made it sound so much worse than it actually was. I do like that Adam is a risk taker. He's never boring, that's for sure!

It's totally worth the risk. I thought everyone had seen Adam's performances before Idol and knew his 'style'. I'll probably continue to watch talent-type shows. Getting to know about a singer is part of enjoying that singer's performances. Half of the singers I've learned to love from Idol or shows like Idol, I might not ever had heard from them, if I hadn't watched.

I'm sorry for those that don't like Adam's performances, maybe you shouldn't watch the concert tapes or read the tweets. You can usually judge by remarks whether you want to view the vid or not.

For me - all my fave new artists except Lady G have come from Idol. Most new music I have purchased over the last 9 years have been from artists from Idol. I wouldn't miss it!

I tell ya - after I saw some of the pre-Idol pix and vids I feared far worse from Adam than we have gotten

Married Bono brings woman on stage for a song. Lays her next to him. Puts arms around her and kisses her. All very beautiful though. It's my fave U2 song anyway!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ye8GLPUVsM

Elvis kissing lots of women during a song!

(Sky - don't watch )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQlVcHgyH4I

FC, you are too funny!!!

What is it anyway that is the most bothersome about Adam going into the audience and kissing a guy AND a girl (from what I've read)? Is it really about two guys kissing or is it about kissing a stranger? I just worry about a fan going overboard and possibly pulling him off stage onto his pretty head!

Sky wrote:

FC, you are too funny!!!

What is it anyway that is the most bothersome about Adam going into the audience and kissing a guy AND a girl (from what I've read)? Is it really about two guys kissing or is it about kissing a stranger? I just worry about a fan going overboard and possibly pulling him off stage onto his pretty head!

It's that it comes off as cheap and sleazy to me. Any kind of these antics from any artist do. I have never been fans of Britney, Madonna, Prince and so on because of their sexual antics. What bothers me the most about the fan kissing is the randomness of it. How the hell does he know that person wants to be kissed? It's a totally invasive act to stick your tongue in someone's mouth especially when they're not expecting it. Not everyone thinks he is a sex god and wants to make out with him.

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I thought everyone had seen Adam's performances before Idol and knew his 'style'.

I knew of his 'style' but didn't watch the more raunchy videos. I have no desire to see them but based on his performances on this side of the ocean (save the AMA's) he hadn't pushed it too far for me to handle. Sure I've never been fond of the antics of Fever or WLL but his other incredible performances had made me stick around. Toronto was an awesome concert and I totally enjoyed it but now he is getting more random and bold and it's not something I want to see. I've said in the past that Adam will quite probably be an artist that I will enjoy listening to but not watching live.

Not everyone wants to make out with Adam??!!

He met BOTH the female and male that he kissed at the M&G that day. They are HUGE fans. There are pix of Adam with them at the M&G. I think he had a good idea that they wouldn't mind

I don't think kissing fans is cheap, sleazy etc. during the show. Lord Elvis kissed so many in that video up there it isn't funny. And way more seriously.

I think when the artist is watching the crowd reactions to him he has a pretty good idea how receptive they would be.

I agree Sky - he does need to be careful not to get pulled into the crowd and get hurt or fall and get hurt. Not sure if Workmens Comp covers that

I don't think it's cheap or sleazy as long as he keeps his clothes on, which he does. Unlike Gaga. And as long as it doesn't take over the act, because the focus should always be on his singing.