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PostSubject: Re: SALES DATA FOR IDOLS   SALES DATA FOR IDOLS - Page 17 EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 12:52 am

Wanted to put these in here cause this makes me proud for Kris, Adam and other idols that have got radio play and ended up on year end radio charts.

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99.5 FM (my 99.5) in Salt Lake City just played their top 99 songs of 2010:

#5 Daughtry LAY
#6 Kris Allen LLWD
#7 Adam Lambert WWFM
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Kiss108 Boston Pop radio Top 40 of 2010
http://kiss108.com/pages/top30.html

#14 – WWFM
#17 – LLWD

WBNQ Top 25 of 2010

#9 – LLWD
#12 – WWFM
#14 – LAY

http://wbnq.com/wbnq-top-25-of-2010/

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Congrats to Kradam and Daughtry :xmasclapping: :xmasclapping: :xmasclapping: :xmasclapping:

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I am actually happy that Kris is above Adam on Rick Dees list. Adam's success is established, but I was always afraid Kris would be left in the dust and trashed because he "wasn't the real winner." He is doing very well and I am proud of him. I know Adam feels the same way.
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PostSubject: Re: SALES DATA FOR IDOLS   SALES DATA FOR IDOLS - Page 17 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 10:27 am

Numbers from USA Today


David Cook, This Loud Morning (46,000, debut, 46,000) (#7 Billboard 200)
Scotty McCreery, American Idol Season 10 EP (40,000, debut, 40,000) (#10 BB200)
Lauren Alaina, American Idol Season 10 EP (20,000, debut, 20,000) (#24 BB200)
James Durbin, American Idol Season 10 EP (15,000, debut, 15,000) (#31 BB200)
Haley Reinhart, American Idol Season 10 EP (14,000, debut, 14,000) (#37 BB200)
Jennifer Hudson, I Remember Me (5,000, -1%, 367,000) (#114 BB200)

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PostSubject: Re: SALES DATA FOR IDOLS   SALES DATA FOR IDOLS - Page 17 EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 6:29 pm

This weeks numbers:

11 22 SCOTTY MCCREERY INTERSCOPE 13,759 -64%
AMERICAN IDOL: SEASON 10

7 23 DAVID COOK 19/RCA/RMG 13,303 -70%
THIS LOUD MORNING

23 34 LAUREN ALAINA INTERSCOPE 10,595 -45%
AMERICAN IDOL: SEASON 10

-- 35 HALEY REINHART INTERSCOPE 10,558 --
AMERICAN IDOL SEASON 10

-- 38 JAMES DURBIN INTERSCOPE 10,017 --
AMERICAN IDOL SEASON 10

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Such low numbers!
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adamishot wrote:
Such low numbers!

Actually they are great for an EP second week, before a real album.
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Good for the EPs of the season 10 kids but not good for David Cook's full sophomore CD.

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Firecracker wrote:
Good for the EPs of the season 10 kids but not good for David Cook's full sophomore CD.

Those are terrible numbers for David, I was only thinking about the other kids, me bad. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: SALES DATA FOR IDOLS   SALES DATA FOR IDOLS - Page 17 EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:07 pm

Cd's are not selling really great right now unless you are someone like Josh Groban or Taylor Swift. It is a sad state of affairs in the music world right now.

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PostSubject: Re: SALES DATA FOR IDOLS   SALES DATA FOR IDOLS - Page 17 EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 4:52 am

There are several others selling really well too - Adele, GaGa, Jackie, Beyonce, Britney, and many more.

The point is David sold over a million a few years ago and this is really a huge drop off. Kinda scary how it goes for many Idols.

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Very few Idols have shown any staying power. They enjoy a few years popularity, but except for a few mega-talents (Kelly, Carrie, Chris), they then fade away. We can't blame it on the state of the music industry because if that were the case, poor sales would be across the board and they are not. I see it as sort of a shakeout, a survival of the fittest in hard times. People are more selective in the cd's they do buy. They aren't going to put down the money unless they really like the artist. Mediocre artists fall by the wayside while talents like Adele (I adore her) rise to the top.
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As for Adam, it's too soon to say, but I believe he will have staying power and will emerge as one of the few who remain on top for many years.
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Spirit wrote:
Very few Idols have shown any staying power. They enjoy a few years popularity, but except for a few mega-talents (Kelly, Carrie, Chris), they then fade away. We can't blame it on the state of the music industry because if that were the case, poor sales would be across the board and they are not. I see it as sort of a shakeout, a survival of the fittest in hard times. People are more selective in the cd's they do buy. They aren't going to put down the money unless they really like the artist. Mediocre artists fall by the wayside while talents like Adele (I adore her) rise to the top.

That is so true, some people said CDs are not selling, yes they are selling just looks at Jackie that little girl sells, I also love Adele.

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Yep - there are many artists selling really well. No, it's not like the old days because of downloads, but those putting out great music are indeed doing very well and putting butts in seats on tour.

I agree with you Spirit - I do think Adam stands a good chance at being one of the Idols who can make it past the first few years. This sophomore CD needs to be a really good one with radio friendly songs. Radio hits go a long ass way to selling the full albums. I never would have even checked out Bruno Mars' CD if it were not for the great radio hits I heard. It IS important to have radio friendly songs on the CD. That was David Cook's mistake I believe with this album. The single flopped and the reviews were mediocre for the most part. He didn't stay connected to his Idol fans during the long time between CDs and that sure didn't help.

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The sophomore album is crucial. The first album doesn't indicate much, but the second one absolutely does. Most Idols float on their AI popularity the first album, but really don't have the talent or whatever it takes to put out music the public cares enough to buy after that. The cream floats to the top within a few years. Adam is the cream of the last five Idol years.
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Most recent AI HDD album sales numbers via MJs and Kirsten:


20 Scotty McCreery “American Idol Season 10: Scotty McCreery EP” 17,241 (+23%; lw 13,967) Total: 71,613 (19)
57 David Cook “This Loud Morning 8K (-33%; 12K) Total: 66K (26)
60 James Durbin “American Idol Season 10: James Durbin EP” 7K (-34%; lw 10K) Total: 32K (38)
70 Haley Reinhart “American Idol Season 10: Haley Reinhart EP 7K (-35%; lw 10K) Total: 31K (37)
74 Lauren Alaina “American Idol Season 10: Lauren Alaina EP” 6,485 (-39%; lw 10,592) Total: 37,161 (35)
161 Jennifer Hudson “I Remember Me” 3K (-8%; 4K) Total: 374K (141)
Mandisa “What If We Were Real” 2K (+8%; lw 2K) Total: 53K
Daughtry “Daughtry” 1K (-5%; lw 1K)

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Firecracker wrote:
Most recent AI HDD album sales numbers via MJs and Kirsten:


20 Scotty McCreery “American Idol Season 10: Scotty McCreery EP” 17,241 (+23%; lw 13,967) Total: 71,613 (19)
57 David Cook “This Loud Morning 8K (-33%; 12K) Total: 66K (26)
60 James Durbin “American Idol Season 10: James Durbin EP” 7K (-34%; lw 10K) Total: 32K (38)
70 Haley Reinhart “American Idol Season 10: Haley Reinhart EP 7K (-35%; lw 10K) Total: 31K (37)
74 Lauren Alaina “American Idol Season 10: Lauren Alaina EP” 6,485 (-39%; lw 10,592) Total: 37,161 (35)
161 Jennifer Hudson “I Remember Me” 3K (-8%; 4K) Total: 374K (141)
Mandisa “What If We Were Real” 2K (+8%; lw 2K) Total: 53K
Daughtry “Daughtry” 1K (-5%; lw 1K)

Wow Danny's new single is not in there.

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Well, probably because it is from their ALBUM chart. I don't think any singles are listed on the album chart.

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Didn't know where to put this but it is a very interesting read. It looks like Jive did not merge with Epic and is here to stay. Also it looks like RCA is the one to do some changing. Check it out folks.

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http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/record-labels/exclusive-peter-edge-and-tom-corson-talk-1005309552.story

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More info on the RCA/Jive reorganization.

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As a result of the restructuring of the RCAMG and Jive Label Group into one company, the new label will now be known as RCA Records.


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The re-branding process will now find all artist releases on the venerable RCA Records label going forward.


http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=2268707

So I guess when Kris,Jordin and Crystal put out their cd's they will say RCA RECORDS instead of Jive and when Adam, Chris, Kelly and so on put out their cd's they will also say RCA RECORDS. My Kradam will be on the same label. Woohoo cheers

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This,(article below), could affect Adam as well as Kris and all others on any of the labels on the RCA ticket.

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Consolidation Of RCA Music Group Continues
August 23, 2011 at 11:49 AM (PT)

http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/...group-continues

Music Pros On The Loose
Today was a tough day for some friends from the RCA MUSIC GROUP as further consolidation has put a number of members of the promotion department, 13 in all, into "find a job" mode.
Among those leaving:
VP/Top 40 Promotion DAVEY DYER, who commented, "It's been 15 years and 31 #1 songs, and SONY BMG has been very good to me. I will miss my RCA promotion family, as it looks as if I will be retiring from the business to help my wife with her business." Reach DYER at dave@heidipolderdesign.com. or (646) 706-3400.
SVP/Rhythm Crossover Promo MICHAEL WILLIAMS -- (310) 770-1331, or mikewill32@gmail.com
Nat'l Dir. Top 40 Field Promotion JOSH REICH -- (513) 253-5740, or addjoshspin@hotmail.com
CHICAGO-based UPPER MIDWEST Dir./Promotion TED HOEKSTRA -- reachable at eleven entertainment at (312) 310-0011, or TedHoekstra@mac.com
MID-ATLANTIC Dir./Promotion JIM PAYNE -- (301) 602-4220, or JimPayne@mac.com
NORTHEAST Regional Promotion Mgr LINDA CANGRO -- (516) 369-3775, or lcangro28@gmail.com

NORTHWEST Regional Promotion Mgr KARI CROWLEY -- (415) 305-2553 or crowley.kari@gmail.com
SE Regional Promo Mgr. AMIT KUMAR -- (404) 368-2792, or AmitKumar806@yahoo.com
VP/Promotion Administration JOAN FALLON -- (917) 968-9250, or JoanFallon26@gmail.com
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Putting this one here cause the last post,(last post on last page), was too full. This has to do with all the RCA stuff:
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http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/...rship-structure

RCA Records Announces New Leadership Structure

EVP/Promotion Joe Riccitelli To Oversee Pop/Rock
August 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM (PT)

ALL ACCESS has confirmed that RCA MUSIC GROUP and JIVE LABEL GROUP are now known as RCA RECORDS, with CEO PETER EDGE and Pres./CEO TOM CORSON announcing the new leadership structure for the new RCA RECORDS.

In a joint statement, they outlined:

JOE RICCITELLI will now lead the Pop/Rock promotion teams

MARK PITTS remains President Urban Music/BYSTORM ENTERTAINMENT

KEITH NAFTALY, RANI HANCOCK and DAVID WOLTER will move into senior A&R positions

GEO BIVINS will run the Urban promotion staff

MIKA EL-BAZ will spearhead the publicity team

BOB ANDERSON continues to run the Sales staff

Film & Television Licensing/Strategic Marketing teams will continue to be overseen by KAREN LAMBERTON

SAMANTHA LECCA continues to run the video production team

The marketing department will be led by AARON BORNS, LISA CAMBRIDGE and CAROLYN WILLIAMS

DAN ZUCKER will continue to lead Business Affairs while CLIFF SILVER heads finance.

"As part of our company rebranding, moving forward all of our artists' releases will be on the iconic RCA RECORDS label. With that established, we will be a powerhouse music company second to none in terms of our extraordinary roster. "We have a lot of great music coming between now and the end of the year. We recognize everyone's dedication to the artists and the company and thank you all for your hard work. Here's to a bright future for our label and our artists."


New RCA Promotion Staff

In addition, here is a listing of the entire new RCA RECORDS Promotion Staff:

JOE RICCITELLI -- EVP Promotion
JOHN STRAZZA -- SVP/Promotion

ADRIAN MOREIRA -- SVP/Adult Promotion
WENDY GOODMAN -- VP Adult Promotion

DANNY COOPER -- VP/Promotion
JEFF RIZZO -- VP/Top 40
JOE DADDIO -- Nat' Dir. Top 40 Promotion, EAST COAST

BEATA CZECHOWSKI -- Nat'l Dir./Rhythm, Crossover WEST COAST

BILL BURRS -- SVP/Rock Promotion
JEFF GILLIS -- Sr. Dir./Rock Promotion

SHANNAH MILLER -- SVP/Video Promotion

ANDREW BERKOWITZ -- VP/Artist Relations & Video

ANDY FLICK -- MID-EAST Regional
BRIDGETT GERMROTH -- Mid-Atlantic Regional
CHERYL KOVALCHIK -- Northwest Regional
JEN DALTON -- Southwest Regional
JEN ZIDEL -- Southeast Regional
JENNIFER FIERMAN -- Coordinator Executive Office
KO-FUNG SHIH -- WEST COAST Regional
PAUL NELSON -- NORTHEAST Regional
ROBYN STIMAC -- MIDWEST Regional

RANDY REYES -- Mix-Show Coordinator

JESSIE MALDONADO -- Sr. Dir./Promotion Operations
NATHALIE MARIN -- Manager Promotion Operations
JANUARY CLARK -- Top 40 Coordinator
ELISABETH PIEROTTI -- Coordinator Rock & Adult Promotion
MO HIROMOTO - Assistant-WEST COAST

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Someone on Idol forums said they heard that RCA RECORDS would have 70 to 80 artist on this new label. Both RCA MUSIC GROUP and Jive Music Group have more artist on the labels so this person is saying that both labels will be letting people go. praying praying praying I pray to God that Kris, Jordan and Crystal won't be dropped from the Jive side and I pray that Adam, Kelly, Chris Daughtry, Jennifer H., David C. aren't dropped by the RCA side.

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Why would Adam or Kelly be dropped?? SALES DATA FOR IDOLS - Page 17 633816or Jennifer Hudson???????
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adamishot wrote:
Why would Adam or Kelly be dropped?? SALES DATA FOR IDOLS - Page 17 633816or Jennifer Hudson???????

I am not saying they would be,(I said I pray they don't get dropped), but from what is being said with Jive merging with RCA Music group they will have to cut many artist cause both RCA Music group and Jive Music group have a lot of people on their roster. Since they are merging and they said they are only going to have 70 to 80 people on the new RCA Records group there is going to be people dropped. I admit I don't know of many of the artist on either label and all I really care about are the idols at this point. Adam, Kelly, Jennifer, Chris, Carrie, David C., Danny and Lee are all with the RCA Music side,(which includes Arista and J records), Kris, Jordin and Crystal belong to the jive side,(David A did but he left jive). That is a lot of idols,(idols seem to be the ones the labels like to drop,(Taylor, Ruben, Diana, Justin, Kathryn, Kristy Lee Cook, Carly's group and so on), on one label and I want them all to stay there. I may just being a worry wart but I do worry. Carrie for sure has no worries and probably Kelly and Chris. Adam is most likely in the clear but Jennifer even being an Oscar Winner and Grammy winner her second cd has not sold so hot nor has David C's new one. Lee is said to have one foot out the door but no one knows for sure, On the jive side of artist: Kris, Jordin and Crystal are all probably wondering what is going on with them and that is why the three really haven't started recording much of their cds,(Crystal I do not know if she has even started on a sophmore cd), having to go along with all the Jive merging with Epic stuff and then that not happening and now Jive going with RCA they are probably tied in knots, Danny I honestly have no clue but I do know he is supposed to be working on a second cd. Things are all up in the air and a lot of people from RCA are losing jobs right now and there is the talk of artist next.

Huge state of Transition right now.

ETA: The people speaking of this were Adam fans on Idol Forums so I have no clue how they got that number of 70 to 80 people for the new RCA Records but that is what they posted. Also they must be thinking of how things will effect Adam if they are mentioning this in his sophmore cd thread. I think fans of all artist that are on these labels are wondering and praying that all good happens for their favorite in this old/new label!!

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Just found this which goes along with the Jive RCA stuff:

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Label layoffs

Nearly 50 employees were laid off at Jive Records yesterday when the iconic label was folded into RCA. As we first reported in June, Jive, which signed Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears, would be dumped into RCA as Sony Music consolidates its labels. An insider said that none of the artists have been axed — yet — but most of the promotions department has been demolished. Usher, Chris Brown and Pink will now be managed under RCA. A label rep declined to comment.

(Jordin Sparks, Crystal Bowersox, Kris Allen on Jive Records)

Read more at New York Post

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/label_layoffs_7QzSqejdINOk88AcMIswrO#ixzz1Vy2Tw87s
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Talk on MJ's is about artist who will most likely stay,(Pink, Britney, Justin, Chris Brown, Carrie) and ones people are not sure of and they have mentioned the idols. People are not sure of things and when nothing is put out there to reassure anybody then some people worry.

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I can totally understand why some are worried.....

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