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aerwin

Number of posts: 1043 Location: Georgia Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:13 pm | |
| I don't know if anyone will want to discuss with me since y'all have already watched but I am now on the fifth episode. I love all the costumes and scenery. all of the actors are spot on. I am very fond of Henry Cavill that plays Charles Brandon. It os a wonder that real Charles Brandon managed to hang on to his head as many times as he dared to disagree with Henry. The thing that I am taking issue with though is JRM as Henry.Really by the time Henry was involved with Anne , he was in his 40's. JRM barely looks older than the actress that plays Lady Mary. While I do think that his playing Henry as petulant spoiled brat is spot on I do think he should perhaps lighten up a teensy bit. from what I have read about Henry was he did enjoy a laugh and was fun to be around at times. I know they cannnot be entirely historically accurate but a lot of this show is. i just wish they would age him a bit . And I do pine for that red gold hair. I also think Natalie Dormer is doing a terrific job as Anne. The more I read about Anne the more confused I am about her. Was she an extremely manipulating bitch? Or was she used as pawn for her family to gain power? I used to dislike her intensely but the more I read of her the more respect I have for her. She was very intelligent and saw the Catholic chirch for the bloated pompous institution that it was. Thank Goodness Henry did bring the protestant religion into England , even if he did maybe perhaps for the wrong reasons. Well I could go on and on . So if anyone is interested in discussing my obessesion with me I will be happy. :) I read anything I can get my hands on about them fiction or non. So if anyone knows of anything new please tell me. I would still like to get my hands on that series Badger spoke of. |
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Firecracker Admin

Number of posts: 11675 Location: At my weekly Glambert Meeting! Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:28 pm | |
| I think you can count on Badger and Horselaydee to join you in the discussion! I don't get the cable channel it is on and I have never seen it. _________________ "You can kinda just be. Just live your life -- and play." Adam Lambert - OUT mag.  |
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horselaydee

Number of posts: 2287 Location: Riding through the Washington sagebrush Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:48 am | |
| | Quote: | Really by the time Henry was involved with Anne , he was in his 40's. JRM barely looks older than the actress that plays Lady Mary. While I do think that his playing Henry as petulant spoiled brat is spot on I do think he should perhaps lighten up a teensy bit. from what I have read about Henry was he did enjoy a laugh and was fun to be around at times. I know they cannnot be entirely historically accurate but a lot of this show is. i just wish they would age him a bit . And I do pine for that red gold hair.
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Glad you brought this thread back Aerwin! I am very into this series...and can't wait for it to start again. It takes me to another place and time that I really enjoy visiting and learning about.l I agree that JRM looking so young while Lady Mary is grown up is a problem. I don't mind that the hair isn't historically accurate, but I think Heath Ledger would have done a rightious job playing King Henry and could have physically been close to him as a young man with a slight hair color adjustment and of course aging him appropriately.... But, with that said, I do think JRM has embodied many of King Henry's personality traits and quirks very well like you said, and Natalie Dormer was great as Anne...I will miss her this season. |
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Badger

Number of posts: 568 Location: Richland Center, Wisconsin Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:22 am | |
| Yay, a Tudors thread! Regarding Anne, I think it was a little bit of both. Yes, she was manipulative and cunning but at the same time, she was used to further her family's ambitions. At the end of the day, though, I believe she really did love Henry. Don't forget that her affair with the King lasted about 10 years or more before they were able to marry so she was no spring chicken by the time she became Queen. BTW, in real life, Henry VIII considered himself a good Catholic until he died. He obviously saw things in the Church he didn't like but he had no real use for the Reformers who wanted the Church completely destroyed. I've got a casting suggestion for Season 4. Considering that they have Joss Stone playing Anne of Cleves in Season 3, why not have Miley Cyrus for Catherine Howard? Who knows? Maybe they could get one of the Jonas Brothers to play Thomas Culpepper too. |
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Firecracker Admin

Number of posts: 11675 Location: At my weekly Glambert Meeting! Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:15 pm | |
| Whoa! That casting would send their ratings way up!  Is the show appropriate for that age demographic though?!  Hey, are there roles that would be good for Clay and David Cook?! I might pay for that station if they were cast!  _________________ "You can kinda just be. Just live your life -- and play." Adam Lambert - OUT mag.  |
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aerwin

Number of posts: 1043 Location: Georgia Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:51 pm | |
| I've got a casting suggestion for Season 4. Considering that they have Joss Stone playing Anne of Cleves in Season 3, why not have Miley Cyrus for Catherine Howard? Who knows? Maybe they could get one of the Jonas Brothers to play Thomas Culpepper too.OH UGH!!Please if I see Miley one more time I may scream. You know the more I read about Thomas Boleyn and especially the way the actor portrays him I have come to the conclusion I DESPISE him. I would never put my child in danger for my own ambition. Man I watched the episode last night where Sir Thomas Moore is beheaded . It was gut wrenching. |
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Badger

Number of posts: 568 Location: Richland Center, Wisconsin Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:28 pm | |
| I was disappointed that Jeremy Northam didn't get an Emmy nomination this year. I thought he was the most deserving of the cast although certainly not the only deserving member. Firecracker, no the show is not geared towards the Miley set but she is the right age for it. I doubt seriously if they'd consider her or if she'd even want to do it if it was offered. I'm not sure if either David or Clay is suited for any part. Maybe the Duke of Cleves or one of Catherine Howard's boy toys. But they'd both have to do some serious body work for any torture scenes if they play one of her boyfriends. |
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aerwin

Number of posts: 1043 Location: Georgia Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:22 pm | |
| I know!! I thought Jeremy Northam was fantastic! I cannot believe this show did not get more nominations. It is so beautifully done. PeterO'Toole is great as Pope Paul , isn't he? I could listen to him talk all day. I just saw him Lawrence of Arabia a few weeks ago. My, my he was gorgeous. His eyes are beautiful. |
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Firecracker Admin

Number of posts: 11675 Location: At my weekly Glambert Meeting! Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:37 pm | |
| Yes indeed - Clay and DC would need some major work-outs. Maybe I could help them with that How are the ratings for this show? I swear most of the Emmy nominations seem to go to pretty successful shows. I mean it does happen, but it seems to me the actors on the higher rated shows get looked at first and maybe if there is a spot left someone from a "smaller" show will sneak in there on the ballot. I, along with so many critics, felt Lauren Graham was overlooked every year for Gilmore Girls in favor of the ladies from Grey's or Housewives etc. _________________ "You can kinda just be. Just live your life -- and play." Adam Lambert - OUT mag.  |
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aerwin

Number of posts: 1043 Location: Georgia Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:49 pm | |
| The ratings are pretty good. Mad Men got 16 nominations and it only has about 2 million viewers. Dexter got quite a few noms as well and it's on Showtime. I just don't why The Tudors was overlooked. |
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horselaydee

Number of posts: 2287 Location: Riding through the Washington sagebrush Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:25 am | |
| I agree with you Aerwin, I was really shocked when The Tudors got dissed at the Emmy's...which I think they did. I wonder why too...I think it is one of the best HBO miniseries shows ever! Much better than the Sopranos IMO. Don't know if there are any Alan Ball fans out there, but I read he is doing another show that involves dead people...now come on, talk about formula TV shows...and i loved Six Feet Under, don't get me wrong.  |
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Badger

Number of posts: 568 Location: Richland Center, Wisconsin Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:56 am | |
| I was surprised Peter O'Toole didn't get a Guest Actor nod. I thought he played Pope Paul III as kind of a combination Osama Bin Laden and a Mafia don. Yay me! I ordered Season 1 today |
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aerwin

Number of posts: 1043 Location: Georgia Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:43 am | |
| Oh Good ! I have both seasons. Then I can rewatch when I want. \ Don't know if there are any Alan Ball fans out there, but I read he is doing another show that involves dead people...now come on, talk about formula TV shows...and i loved Six Feet Under, don't get me wrong. His new show is called TrueBlood based on the southern vampire series by Charlaine Harris, I love the books. Surely the costumes were nominated for this show, they are beyond gorgeous. I just read Plain Jane a novel about Jane Seymour. I really enjoyed it. In one part of the book Jane speculates that her son will be a great monarch and Princess Elizabeth will scarcely be remembered. it is just so funny to me that Elizabeth is one of the best loved and well known monarchs of all time. Henry did all his angsting over a son for naught. |
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horselaydee

Number of posts: 2287 Location: Riding through the Washington sagebrush Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:26 pm | |
| O-o, so Henry finally gets his son eh? I must admit, other than the Anne Boelyn years, I am quite ignorant as to the full story of King Henry's life. Good to know the new AB series is based on some good books..and I seriously love Vampire stuff! Now I am really excited! |
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Badger

Number of posts: 568 Location: Richland Center, Wisconsin Registration date: 2008-08-09
 | Subject: Re: Make Way for The King! Calling All Tudorphiles! Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:44 am | |
| I also ordered "Anne Of The Thousand Days" and "Mary, Queen of Scots". |
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